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zoth

21 Aug 2018 19:46


Re: salutari

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Echelon 10x70 nu va place ca e scump...am inteles...recomandati-mi voi un binoclu 10x70 cu pupila la iesire de 6mm, dar nu mai mica, si un Camp vizual aparent de cel putin  5.0 grade, dar nu mai mic...pot merge pana la 4000 de lei, si tin foarte mult sa imi iau 10x70, nu 15x70 sau alte valori..

Nu e vorba ca nu ne place, ne punem intrebarea daca performantele la care ajunge acest binoclu ii justifica pretul. Si sa stii ca nu suntem singurii care isi pun aceasta intrebare. Iata mai jos niste concluzii despre un Echelon (model 20x70):

CONCLUSIONS ON THE CELESTRON ECHELON

 

Overall, at this point in time, I would have to say that, had I paid full retail price, or close, for the Echelon, I would have requested a refund. Some of the biggest problems I have with it, and reasons I can't strongly recommend it are:

 

1. From an optical standpoint, I just really can't be certain how much better, or similar this binocular peforms compared to it's competition, the BA8's, for half the price. The Echelon just does not give that wow factor in it's image. Not having a BA8 to compare side by side, I cannot possibly recommend this binocular for their asking price withough first comparing to the BA8. It wouldn't suprise me in the least bit if I found out the BA8 to be just as good. That said, the image that I see through them just doesn't impress as well as I was hoping for.

 

2. The overall build quality I find to be no better than a BA8 I handled. (Only briefly looked through, can't comment any on optics). I can feel confident in handling both that there is nothing about the Echelon's build quality that justifys it's hefty price tag over the BA8 IMO. Maybe there is something about the prism mounting system that could be better in the Echelon, I do not know. This I do know, it's hard to be enthused by the build and refinement of the Echelon knowing that a BA8 cost half as much, or that a Fujinon is not much more, as the build and refinement is no where near the Fujinon's, despite costing nearly as much. The build is good, but not $800 plus good.

 

3. The eyecups suck, to put it bluntly

 

4. FOV in all magnifications is narrow compared to other models

 

5. Only 65 to 66mm in aperture

 

6. Coatings are not particularly impressive

 

7. Knowing that one can get a Fujinon for around this price is the nail in the coffin for the Echelon IMO.

 

The Echelon almost feels like a product that was rushed out the door, no real refinement, like it was something they wanted to get into the market quickly.
If the price had been closer to the BA8, I probably would have not been so dissapointed with it.

 

It's worth nothing that the 20X version of the Echelon could, optically, be the dog of the group. It's possible the 10X and 16X models could perform better. So I take that into account.

 

I would like, more than anything, to see one of our more knowledgable members, compare the Echelon to the BA8 and/or Fujinon 70mm. I think that is the comparison most would like to see. I can say though that the optical performance would have to be signifigantly higher in the Echelon vs the BA8 in order for it's price to be justified IMO. For nearly twice as much money, one could only hope it would be. The views that I see through the Echelon don't instill the greatest of confidence for me that it is THAT much better than the BA8.

E bine chiar sa citesti integral primul post:
https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/581619-celestron-echelon-20x70-vs-minox-bd-15x58-ed-br-mini-reviewcomparison/

Cat despre recomandari iata o varianta posibila:
https://astromagazin.ro/binocluri/3250-binoclu-omegon-brightsky-105x70-.html

