----------------------------------- aandrei 29 Apr 2015 08:34 Deep Sky Stacker Live! ----------------------------------- Am incercat sa-l folosesc. Incarca pozele, le analizeaza dar NU face stack. In pozele pe care le-am facut eu a gasit una, doua, maxim trei stele -chiar in expuneri de 30s la M13 iar la expunerile de 10s una, maxim 2 stele. Rolul lui este exact CRESTEREA raportului s/n deci ar trebui sa lucreze in conditii dificile, de s/n mic. Am vazut ca si 2 membri au colaborat cu cei care fac DSS. Gresesc eu ceva? Ce ar trebui sa fac? 5/29/2015 8:32:27 AM - DeepSkyStacker Live 3.3.2 How to use DeepSkyStacker Live? Step 1 Check the Settings tabs for all the stacking and warning settings Step 2 Click on the Monitor button to start monitoring the folder When the monitoring is on incoming images are only registered but not stacked. Step 3 To start stacking the images click on the Stack button At this point all the incoming (and previously registered) images will be stacked. You can pause/start again the stacking process by clicking on the Stack button. To stop the monitoring and stacking click on the Stop button. 5/29/2015 8:32:29 AM - Start monitoring folder C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored 5/29/2015 8:32:31 AM - Start Stacking files 5/29/2015 8:33:45 AM - 1 new file(s) found -> New file: C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_001.fit 5/29/2015 8:33:45 AM - Loading 16 bits gray FITS (SXV-M7) light frame C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_001.fit 5/29/2015 8:33:45 AM - Registering C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_001.fit 5/29/2015 8:33:45 AM - Detecting hot pixels 5/29/2015 8:33:45 AM - Computing luminances C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_001.fit 5/29/2015 8:33:45 AM - Registering C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_001.fit 5/29/2015 8:33:45 AM - Image M13_30s_001.fit registered: 2 star(s) detected - FWHM = 3.28 - Score = 14.14 5/29/2015 8:33:45 AM - Loading 16 bits gray FITS (SXV-M7) light frame C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_001.fit 5/29/2015 8:33:45 AM - Detecting hot pixels 5/29/2015 8:33:45 AM - Computing Background Calibration parameters 5/29/2015 8:33:45 AM - Stacking 16 bit/ch light frame C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_001.fit 5/29/2015 8:34:14 AM - 2 new file(s) found -> New file: C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_002.fit -> New file: C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_003.fit 5/29/2015 8:34:14 AM - Loading 16 bits gray FITS (SXV-M7) light frame C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_002.fit 5/29/2015 8:34:14 AM - Registering C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_002.fit 5/29/2015 8:34:14 AM - Detecting hot pixels 5/29/2015 8:34:14 AM - Computing luminances C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_002.fit 5/29/2015 8:34:14 AM - Registering C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_002.fit 5/29/2015 8:34:14 AM - Image M13_30s_002.fit registered: 3 star(s) detected - FWHM = 4.68 - Score = 20.76 5/29/2015 8:34:15 AM - Image C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_002.fit is not stackable (No transformation found from reference frame) 5/29/2015 8:34:15 AM - Loading 16 bits gray FITS (SXV-M7) light frame C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_003.fit 5/29/2015 8:34:15 AM - Registering C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_003.fit 5/29/2015 8:34:15 AM - Detecting hot pixels 5/29/2015 8:34:15 AM - Computing luminances C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_003.fit 5/29/2015 8:34:15 AM - Registering C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_003.fit 5/29/2015 8:34:15 AM - Image M13_30s_003.fit registered: 3 star(s) detected - FWHM = 4.15 - Score = 20.77 5/29/2015 8:34:15 AM - Image C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_003.fit is not stackable (No transformation found from reference frame) 5/29/2015 8:35:00 AM - Stop Stacking files 5/29/2015 8:35:00 AM - Start Stacking files ----------------------------------- Emil 29 Apr 2015 09:00 ----------------------------------- Salut Andrei, personal nu prea am folosit si nici nu cred ca am sa mai folosesc vreodata DSS Live. Din ce cauza? Am observat ca, atunci cand se efectueaza captura, tind sa fiu prea putin critic la calitatea imaginilor, eu prefer ca las imaginile "la rece" pentru vreo 2 zile dupa care le iau la puricat din punct de vedere al calitatii. Pe de alta parte DSS Live este destul de critic din punct de vedere al calitatii imaginilor in special in domeniul S/N ratio de aceea imaginea obtinuta la final in DSS Live este dpdv calitativ diferita de cea obtinuta in DSS (cel putin din experienta mea). O idee ar fi sa tragi un pic de reglajele de contrast/luminozitate si sa vezi cu care setare lucreaza cel mai bine. Poate ar trebui sa incerci sa maresti timpul de expunere de la 30 secunde la 60 secunde sau mai mult, sau daca folosesti o serie de expuneri cu durata diferita, sa pornesti DSS Live numai pentru cadrele care au o durata mai mare de expunere. Mesajul urmator 5/29/2015 8:34:15 AM - Image C:\Users\user\Desktop\Monitored\M13_30s_002.fit is not stackable (No transformation found from reference frame) imi spune ca DSS Live nu poate determina imaginea M13_30s_002.fit ca fiind o imagine diferita fata de restul, singura modalitate de a evita acest lucru care imi vine acum in minte este activarea dithering-ului in programul de ghidaj sau, daca aceasta optiune a fost activata, marirea parametrului de dithering astfel DSS Live va putea determina o diferenta intre cadre. Daca intre doua cadre, DSS Live nu determina o diferenta atunci considera imaginea nestackata ca fiind o copie a unei alte imagini care se gaseste in lista de stackare. Sper ca te ajute cu ceva Numai bine Emil ----------------------------------- aandrei 29 Apr 2015 09:53 ----------------------------------- Multumesc pentru raspuns. Imi pare rau ca nu face stack. Din punctul meu de vedere, ar fi fost util sa poata fi OBLIGAT sa faca stackingul, chiar si fara aliniere. Cu ghidaj bun alinierea ar fi devenit inutila iar stackingul a 4 imagini ar fi scazut zgomotul la jumatate... pentru fotografie NU are rost dar eu inca ma invart in zona DSS-capturi rapide. O zi frumoasa!